Müller TM17 VS John Deere 8650 specs comparison
Müller TM17
General Infos| Make | Müller |
| Model | TM17 |
| Country | - |
| Production | From 1976 Until 1995 |
| Price | - |
| Tractor type | Four wheel Drive (4WD) tractor |
| Fuel | diesel |
| Service repair manual | Müller TM17 Manual |
Dimensions, sizes and tires
| AG front tires | 23.1/18x26 |
| AG rear tires | 23.1/18x26 |
| Lawn front tires | - |
| Lawn rear tires | - |
| Indus front tires | - |
| Indus rear tires | - |
| Weight | 15650 lbs or 7098 kg |
| Length | 237.4 inches [602 cm] |
| Width | 81.4 inches [206 cm] |
| Height | - |
| Wheelbase | 107.9 inches [274 cm] |
| Ground clearance | - |
| Turning radius | - |
| Rear tread size | - |
| Front tread size | - |
| Turning radius | - |
Horsepower and engin specs
| Engine capacity | 588.6 ci or 9.6 L |
| Cylinders | 5 cylinders |
| Engine power | 173 hp or 129.0 kW |
| Engine RPM | 2000 (rpm) |
| Torque | 444.8 lb-ft or 603.1 Nm | Torque RPM | 1600 (rpm) |
| Fuel type | diesel |
| Fuel injection | - |
| Fuel tank size | 95.1 gal or 360.0 L |
| Oil capacity | 15.85 qts or 15.0 L |
| Oil change | - |
| Starter motor | electric |
| Starter volts | 24 V |
| Parts And Accessories | Müller TM17 Parts |
| Batteries number | 2 |
| Batteries voltage | 12 V |
| Battries Amps | 135 amps |
| Cold Amps | - |
| Ground force | - |
| Charging system | alternator |
| Charging Volts | - |
| Charging Amps | 35 amps |
| Trans system | ZF |
| Trans type | - |
| Trans gears | 12 forward and 2 reverse |
| Clutch system | 380mm dry disc |
| Wheel drive | 4x4 articulated 4WD |
| Final drive | planetary |
| Steering | articulated power |
| Braking system | hydraulic disc |
| Cabin type | Open operator station with sunroof canopy |
| Differentiel lock | - |
| System | - |
| Valves | - |
| Pump flow | 25 gpm or 94.6 lpm |
| SVC flow | - |
| Steering flow | - |
| Tank capacity | 19.8 gal or 74.9 L |
| Hydraulic pressure | 2000 psi or 137.9 bar |
| Max flow | - |
| Drawbar type | - |
| Claimed power | 147 hp or 109.6 kW |
| Drawbar horsepower | - |
| Fuel consumption | - |
| Pulling power | - |
| Claimed power | - |
| Real power | - |
| Engine @RPM | - |
| PTO Clutch | - |
| Rear PTO | - |
| Rear PTO RPM | - |
| Front PTO | - |
| Front PTO RPM | - |
| Mid PTO | - |
| Mid PTO RPM | - |
| Fuel consumption | - |
| Hitch system | - |
| Rear hitch | II |
| Rear hitch lift | 7716 lbs or 3499 kg |
| Front hitch | - |
| Front hitch lift | - |
John Deere 8650
General Infos| Make | John Deere |
| Model | 8650 |
| Country | United states |
| Production | From 1982 Until 1988 |
| Price | 95,000 USD |
| Tractor type | Four wheel Drive (4WD) tractor |
| Fuel | diesel |
| Service repair manual | John Deere 8650 Manual |
Dimensions, sizes and tires
| AG front tires | 20.8-34 |
| AG rear tires | 20.8-34 |
| Lawn front tires | - |
| Lawn rear tires | - |
| Indus front tires | - |
| Indus rear tires | - |
| Weight | 29,320 lbs or 13299 kg |
| Length | 223.5 inches [567 cm] |
| Width | - |
| Height | - |
| Wheelbase | 125 inches [317 cm] |
| Ground clearance | - |
| Turning radius | 17.8 feet [5.4 m] |
| Rear tread size | 66 to 129 inches |
| Front tread size | 66 to 129 inches |
| Turning radius | - |
Horsepower and engin specs
| Engine capacity | 619 ci or 10.1 L |
| Cylinders | 6 cylinders |
| Engine power | 290 hp or 216.3 kW |
| Engine RPM | 2100 (rpm) |
| Torque | - | Torque RPM | - |
| Fuel type | diesel |
| Fuel injection | - |
| Fuel tank size | 214 gal or 810.0 L |
| Oil capacity | 28 qts or 26.5 L |
| Oil change | - |
| Starter motor | - |
| Starter volts | 12 V |
| Parts And Accessories | John Deere 8650 Parts |
| Batteries number | 2 |
| Batteries voltage | 6 V |
| Battries Amps | - |
| Cold Amps | 975 |
| Ground force | negative |
| Charging system | alternator |
| Charging Volts | - |
| Charging Amps | 110 amps |
| Trans system | Quad-Range |
| Trans type | partial power shift |
| Trans gears | 16 forward and 6 reverse |
| Clutch system | Perma-Clutch hydraulic wet discs |
| Wheel drive | 4x4 articulated 4WD |
| Final drive | - |
| Steering | hydrostatic power |
| Braking system | hydraulic wet disc |
| Cabin type | Sound-Gard cab with air-conditioning |
| Differentiel lock | - |
| System | closed center constant-pressure |
| Valves | 2 to 4 |
| Pump flow | 32 gpm or 121.1 lpm |
| SVC flow | - |
| Steering flow | - |
| Tank capacity | 37.5 gal or 141.9 L |
| Hydraulic pressure | - |
| Max flow | - |
| Drawbar type | - |
| Claimed power | - |
| Drawbar horsepower | 219.93 hp or 164.0 kW |
| Fuel consumption | 15.4 gal/hour or 58.3 l/hour |
| Pulling power | 28,257 lbs or 12817 kg |
| Claimed power | 235 hp or 175.2 kW |
| Real power | 238.56 hp or 177.9 kW |
| Engine @RPM | - |
| PTO Clutch | hydraulic wet disc |
| Rear PTO | independent |
| Rear PTO RPM | 1000 (rpm) |
| Front PTO | - |
| Front PTO RPM | - |
| Mid PTO | - |
| Mid PTO RPM | - |
| Fuel consumption | 15.4 gal/hour or 58.3 l/hour |
| Hitch system | lower-link |
| Rear hitch | 3/3N |
| Rear hitch lift | 9,260 lbs or 4200 kg |
| Front hitch | - |
| Front hitch lift | - |
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Useful links and guides ....
- Müller provided us with the latest version of its TM17 service repair manual
- Find All mechanical and electrical parts and accessories of Müller TM17 farm-tractor here
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