John Deere 8870 VS New Holland TM165 specs comparison

John Deere 8870
General InfosMake | John Deere |
Model | 8870 |
Country | United states |
Production | From 1993 Until 1996 |
Price | 126,538 USD |
Tractor type | Four wheel Drive (4WD) tractor |
Fuel | diesel |
Service repair manual | John Deere 8870 Manual |
Dimensions, sizes and tires
AG front tires | 24.5R-32 |
AG rear tires | 24.5R-32 |
Lawn front tires | - |
Lawn rear tires | - |
Indus front tires | - |
Indus rear tires | - |
Weight | 31,438 lbs or 14260 kg |
Length | 268.9 inches [683 cm] |
Width | - |
Height | - |
Wheelbase | 134 inches [340 cm] |
Ground clearance | - |
Turning radius | - |
Rear tread size | - |
Front tread size | - |
Turning radius | - |
Horsepower and engin specs
Engine capacity | 619 ci or 10.1 L |
Cylinders | 6 cylinders |
Engine power | 350 hp or 261.0 kW |
Engine RPM | 2100 (rpm) |
Torque | - | Torque RPM | - |
Fuel type | diesel |
Fuel injection | - |
Fuel tank size | 220 gal or 832.7 L |
Oil capacity | 33.8 qts or 32.0 L |
Oil change | - |
Starter motor | - |
Starter volts | 12 V |
Parts And Accessories | John Deere 8870 Parts |
Batteries number | 2 |
Batteries voltage | 12 V |
Battries Amps | - |
Cold Amps | 925 |
Ground force | negative |
Charging system | - |
Charging Volts | - |
Charging Amps | - |
Trans system | Power Shift |
Trans type | full power shift |
Trans gears | 12 forward and 2 reverse |
Clutch system | hydraulic wet disc |
Wheel drive | 4x4 articulated 4WD |
Final drive | inboard planetary |
Steering | hydrostatic power |
Braking system | hydraulic wet discs |
Cabin type | Sound-Gard cab standard |
Differentiel lock | - |
System | closed center pressure compensated |
Valves | 3 to 5 |
Pump flow | 44.8 gpm or 169.6 lpm |
SVC flow | 33.3 gpm or 126.0 lpm |
Steering flow | - |
Tank capacity | 38 gal or 143.8 L |
Hydraulic pressure | 2530 psi or 174.4 bar |
Max flow | - |
Drawbar type | - |
Claimed power | - |
Drawbar horsepower | 280.34 hp or 209.0 kW |
Fuel consumption | 17.9 gal/hour or 67.8 l/hour |
Pulling power | 35,026 lbs or 15887 kg |
Claimed power | 300 hp or 223.7 kW |
Real power | 335.69 hp or 250.3 kW |
Engine @RPM | - |
PTO Clutch | hydraulic wet disc |
Rear PTO | independent |
Rear PTO RPM | 1000 (rpm) |
Front PTO | - |
Front PTO RPM | - |
Mid PTO | - |
Mid PTO RPM | - |
Fuel consumption | 18.6 gal/hour or 70.4 l/hour |
Hitch system | draft sensing |
Rear hitch | 3 |
Rear hitch lift | 14,980 lbs or 6794 kg |
Front hitch | - |
Front hitch lift | - |

New Holland TM165
General InfosMake | New Holland |
Model | TM165 |
Country | United states |
Production | From 2000 Until 2002 |
Price | - |
Tractor type | Row Crop tractor |
Fuel | diesel |
Service repair manual | New Holland TM165 Manual |
Dimensions, sizes and tires
AG front tires | 480/70R-28 |
AG rear tires | 580/70R-38 |
Lawn front tires | - |
Lawn rear tires | - |
Indus front tires | - |
Indus rear tires | - |
Weight | 11023 lbs or 5000 kg |
Length | 191.9 inches [487 cm] |
Width | 79.2 inches [201 cm] |
Height | 113.4 inches [288 cm] |
Wheelbase | 109.6 inches [278 cm] |
Ground clearance | - |
Turning radius | - |
Rear tread size | 60.2 to 87.9 inches |
Front tread size | 60.8 to 86.1 inches |
Turning radius | - |
Horsepower and engin specs
Engine capacity | 456 ci or 7.5 L |
Cylinders | 6 cylinders |
Engine power | 165 hp or 123.0 kW |
Engine RPM | 2300 (rpm) |
Torque | - | Torque RPM | - |
Fuel type | diesel |
Fuel injection | - |
Fuel tank size | 85 gal or 321.7 L |
Oil capacity | 20 qts or 18.9 L |
Oil change | - |
Starter motor | electric |
Starter volts | 12 V |
Parts And Accessories | New Holland TM165 Parts |
Batteries number | 2 |
Batteries voltage | 12 V |
Battries Amps | - |
Cold Amps | 900 |
Ground force | negative |
Charging system | alternator |
Charging Volts | - |
Charging Amps | 120 amps |
Trans system | Power Command |
Trans type | full power shift |
Trans gears | 18 forward and 6 reverse |
Clutch system | electro-hydraulic wet disc |
Wheel drive | 4x2 2WD |
Final drive | - |
Steering | power |
Braking system | hydraulic wet disc |
Cabin type | Cab standard |
Differentiel lock | - |
System | closed-center load sensing |
Valves | 4 |
Pump flow | 28 gpm or 106.0 lpm |
SVC flow | - |
Steering flow | 16.4 gpm or 62.1 lpm |
Tank capacity | 26.5 gal or 100.3 L |
Hydraulic pressure | 2750 psi or 189.6 bar |
Max flow | - |
Drawbar type | - |
Claimed power | - |
Drawbar horsepower | 125.0 hp or 93.2 kW |
Fuel consumption | 9.4 gal/hour or 35.6 l/hour |
Pulling power | 14615 lbs or 6629 kg |
Claimed power | 135 hp or 100.7 kW |
Real power | 147.8 hp or 110.2 kW |
Engine @RPM | 540@1970 (rpm) |
PTO Clutch | electro-hydraulic wet disc |
Rear PTO | independent |
Rear PTO RPM | 540 (rpm) |
Front PTO | - |
Front PTO RPM | - |
Mid PTO | - |
Mid PTO RPM | - |
Fuel consumption | 0.1 gal/hour or 0.4 l/hour |
Hitch system | electronic lower-link draft sensing |
Rear hitch | III/II |
Rear hitch lift | 11690 lbs or 5302 kg |
Front hitch | II |
Front hitch lift | 7208 lbs or 3269 kg |
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Useful links and guides ....
- John Deere provided us with the latest version of its 8870 service repair manual
- Find All mechanical and electrical parts and accessories of John Deere 8870 farm-tractor here
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