CaseIH Puma 165 VS New Holland 8970 specs comparison
                                         
                                        
                                    
                                
                                                                            
                                        
                                    
                                                                            
                                    
                                                                                        CaseIH Puma 165
General Infos| Make | CaseIH | 
| Model | Puma 165 | 
| Country | United states | 
| Production | From 2007 Until 2010 | 
| Price | 123,515 USD | 
| Tractor type | Row Crop tractor | 
| Fuel | diesel | 
| Service repair manual | CaseIH Puma 165 Manual | 
Dimensions, sizes and tires
| AG front tires | 16.9R30 | 
| AG rear tires | 20.8R42 | 
| Lawn front tires | - | 
| Lawn rear tires | - | 
| Indus front tires | - | 
| Indus rear tires | - | 
| Weight | 15,708 lbs or 7125 kg | 
| Length | - | 
| Width | - | 
| Height | 119.7 inches [304 cm] | 
| Wheelbase | 113.6 inches [288 cm] | 
| Ground clearance | - | 
| Turning radius | - | 
| Rear tread size | - | 
| Front tread size | - | 
| Turning radius | - | 
Horsepower and engin specs
| Engine capacity | 411 ci or 6.7 L | 
| Cylinders | 6 cylinders 24 valves | 
| Engine power | 165 hp or 123.0 kW | 
| Engine RPM | 2200 (rpm) | 
| Torque | - | Torque RPM | - | 
| Fuel type | diesel | 
| Fuel injection | electronic high-pressure common rail | 
| Fuel tank size | 116 gal or 439.1 L | 
| Oil capacity | 16 qts or 15.1 L | 
| Oil change | - | 
| Starter motor | - | 
| Starter volts | 12 V | 
| Parts And Accessories | CaseIH Puma 165 Parts | 
| Batteries number | 1 | 
| Batteries voltage | 12 V | 
| Battries Amps | - | 
| Cold Amps | 1300 | 
| Ground force | negative | 
| Charging system | alternator | 
| Charging Volts | - | 
| Charging Amps | 150 amps | 
| Trans system | EconoGear | 
| Trans type | continuously variable transmission (CVT) | 
| Trans gears | infinite forward and reverse | 
| Clutch system | - | 
| Wheel drive | 4x2 2WD | 
| Final drive | - | 
| Steering | hydrostatic power | 
| Braking system | differential hydraulic wet disc | 
| Cabin type | Cab standard | 
| Differentiel lock | - | 
| System | pressure flow compensating | 
| Valves | 3 to 5 | 
| Pump flow | 31.7 gpm or 120.0 lpm | 
| SVC flow | - | 
| Steering flow | 17 gpm or 64.3 lpm | 
| Tank capacity | 26.5 gal or 100.3 L | 
| Hydraulic pressure | - | 
| Max flow | 48.7 gpm or 184.3 lpm | 
| Drawbar type | - | 
| Claimed power | - | 
| Drawbar horsepower | 107.0 hp or 79.8 kW | 
| Fuel consumption | 9.4 gal/hour or 35.6 l/hour | 
| Pulling power | 16,345 lbs or 7414 kg | 
| Claimed power | 135 hp or 100.7 kW | 
| Real power | 141.5 hp or 105.5 kW | 
| Engine @RPM | - | 
| PTO Clutch | - | 
| Rear PTO | independent | 
| Rear PTO RPM | 540 (rpm) | 
| Front PTO | optional | 
| Front PTO RPM | 1000 (rpm) | 
| Mid PTO | - | 
| Mid PTO RPM | - | 
| Fuel consumption | 9.3 gal/hour or 35.2 l/hour | 
| Hitch system | - | 
| Rear hitch | II/IIIN | 
| Rear hitch lift | 12,787 lbs or 5800 kg | 
| Front hitch | optional | 
| Front hitch lift | - | 
                                        
                                    
                                                                            
                                        
                                    
                                                                            
                                    
                                                                                        New Holland 8970
General Infos| Make | New Holland | 
| Model | 8970 | 
| Country | United states | 
| Production | From 1993 Until 2002 | 
| Price | 127,000 USD | 
| Tractor type | Row Crop tractor | 
| Fuel | diesel | 
| Service repair manual | New Holland 8970 Manual | 
Dimensions, sizes and tires
| AG front tires | 14L-16.1 (2WD) | 
| AG rear tires | 18.4R42 | 
| Lawn front tires | - | 
| Lawn rear tires | - | 
| Indus front tires | - | 
| Indus rear tires | - | 
| Weight | 16,950 lbs or 7688 kg | 
| Length | 196.7 inches [499 cm] | 
| Width | 96.7 inches [245 cm] | 
| Height | 121.3 inches [308 cm] | 
| Wheelbase | 118.3 inches [300 cm] | 
| Ground clearance | - | 
| Turning radius | - | 
| Rear tread size | 60.3 to 107.8 inches | 
| Front tread size | 62 to 87 inches | 
| Turning radius | - | 
Horsepower and engin specs
| Engine capacity | 456 ci or 7.5 L | 
| Cylinders | 6 cylinders | 
| Engine power | 240 hp or 179.0 kW | 
| Engine RPM | 2100 (rpm) | 
| Torque | - | Torque RPM | - | 
| Fuel type | diesel | 
| Fuel injection | - | 
| Fuel tank size | 110 gal or 416.4 L | 
| Oil capacity | 22 qts or 20.8 L | 
| Oil change | - | 
| Starter motor | - | 
| Starter volts | 12 V | 
| Parts And Accessories | New Holland 8970 Parts | 
| Batteries number | 2 | 
| Batteries voltage | 12 V | 
| Battries Amps | - | 
| Cold Amps | 950 | 
| Ground force | negative | 
| Charging system | alternator | 
| Charging Volts | - | 
| Charging Amps | 130 amps | 
| Trans system | - | 
| Trans type | creeper | 
| Trans gears | 32 forward and 18 reverse | 
| Clutch system | - | 
| Wheel drive | 4x2 2WD | 
| Final drive | - | 
| Steering | hydrostatic power | 
| Braking system | wet disc | 
| Cabin type | Cab standard | 
| Differentiel lock | - | 
| System | closed center load sensing | 
| Valves | 3 | 
| Pump flow | 24 gpm or 90.8 lpm | 
| SVC flow | - | 
| Steering flow | - | 
| Tank capacity | 36.9 gal or 139.7 L | 
| Hydraulic pressure | 2750 psi or 189.6 bar | 
| Max flow | 31 gpm or 117.3 lpm | 
| Drawbar type | - | 
| Claimed power | - | 
| Drawbar horsepower | 189.5 hp or 141.3 kW | 
| Fuel consumption | 11.8 gal/hour or 44.7 l/hour | 
| Pulling power | 28,010 lbs or 12705 kg | 
| Claimed power | 210 hp or 156.6 kW | 
| Real power | 224.5 hp or 167.4 kW | 
| Engine @RPM | - | 
| PTO Clutch | - | 
| Rear PTO | independent | 
| Rear PTO RPM | 1000 (rpm) | 
| Front PTO | - | 
| Front PTO RPM | - | 
| Mid PTO | - | 
| Mid PTO RPM | - | 
| Fuel consumption | 11.8 gal/hour or 44.7 l/hour | 
| Hitch system | - | 
| Rear hitch | III | 
| Rear hitch lift | 15,000 lbs or 6804 kg | 
| Front hitch | - | 
| Front hitch lift | - | 
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Useful links and guides ....
- CaseIH provided us with the latest version of its Puma 165 service repair manual
 - Find All mechanical and electrical parts and accessories of CaseIH Puma 165 farm-tractor here
 
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